Aug
21
2010

Don't Change 4 Me

Recycling Songs Is Good For The Environment

Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 08:13:08 PM
(Posted Under: The No Chocolate Cake File)
Thanks to a Google alert...

Matthew Moon: Check out my song, "Don't Change 4 Me," on the Gin Blossoms new album, "No Chocolate Cake".
There you have it, anyone can cash in on the Gin Blossoms name.

This guy recorded and released the song two years - which was used and featured in promos for the Canadian Olympics. Yep, the song has already had a life two years ago, yet - the Gin Blossoms still recorded it for their album. Y'know, the one that has a whopping 10 other tracks of "their own songs". Y'know, err, such a high volume of "their own" (god, a term used lightly) tracks that it's acceptable to also include someone else's song that has already been recorded and released.

Recycling at it's...err...best.

I'm so glad to see that so many unknown artists (Matthew Moon, Susan Sandberg - who has been playing up her songs "on the Gin Blossoms record" for years) are able to cash in on and leverage off the Gin Blossoms name. Talk about just plain fucking sad.

I'm disgusted by this, and that's not even touching on how it's by far the most disgusting song on this album. More on that and my discovery of the song being included on the album at the conclusion of The Chocolate Cake File.

For now, let me say: It's time to amputate your weak ass plan.

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Lauren says on
Monday, August 23, 2010 - 03:20:47 PM

Canadian Olympics??? Think you mean Winter Olympics lol
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Mark says on
Monday, August 23, 2010 - 04:23:27 PM

Yes, the Winter Olympics hosted by...err...Vancouver, Canada.

But let's latch onto anything to distract from how horrible this song is, and how lame it is that the this band couldn't get together 11 new songs for their record, I guess.
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kevin tucker says on
Monday, August 23, 2010 - 06:34:25 PM

Excellent. Can't wait to hear the studio version. It is a cracking tune live.

Let me guess. It would be fine if they worked with unknown "Tempe" artists, tho?

Also can't wait to hear the 11 tracks they felt were the best of the lot to put on the record. Hurry Sept. 28th!
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Mark says on
Monday, August 23, 2010 - 07:12:48 PM

This has absolutely nothing to do with who wrote the song, other than the fact that the Gin Blossoms did not. And it has absolutely nothing to do with any other Tempe artists, or what if any had had a hand in it. It's a flat out terrible song

Further to that, it's not even their song. If Matthew Moon is to believed, it is his song. Given that he has previously released the song, I guess it's not that much of a stretch for him to lay claim to it. It's incredibly pathetic that the band is using other people's song to pad out their own album.

Though, I guess other people's songs is exactly what got this band famous and sold 4 million copies of New Miserable Experience in the first place.
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kevin tucker says on
Monday, August 23, 2010 - 07:28:10 PM

Last I checked Jesse co-wrote "Don't Change For Me" It's his song, the band likes it, why not record it?

Actually it was Doug's songs that got this band famous.



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Mark says on
Monday, August 23, 2010 - 08:55:27 PM

This song was written by Matthew Moon, Jessse Valenzuela and Danny Wilde. The song was recorded and released by Matthew Moon. His Facebook status lists it as his song. If that bothers you, take it up with him. Not only did Matthew use the song first, by your logic, it's no more the Gin Blossoms' song than it is the Rembrandts' song. Which more or less sums up the majority of Gin Blossoms songs these days.

As for why not to record it, I can give you two stella reasons. The first - it's been done before. Recycling it is just lame. The second - it's a ridiculously bad American Idol inspired piece of garbage song.

Thanks for claifying my point about Doug. I'm sure anybody reading this would have picked up on my point there though.

What's your gig Kev? I've left the gbfan.net, leaving you to indulge in your Gin Blossoms kool aid drinking, unencumbered. Between that, Facebook, Myspace and god knows how many other social media websites this band has, one would think you'd have more than enough online outlets to proclaim your ridiculous love for the band. You might be a bit let down by lack of interesting conversation, but it's pretty sad if you have to turn to forcing a conversation with someone who is over being let down by the band.

You probably should find a way to deal with this, because this trend of people not having that much to say of any substance about the band, that started 4 years ago with the last album is only going to get worse. It's what happens when you write and release songs equally deviod of substance.
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Kevin Tucker says on
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 06:46:29 PM

Jesse said Matthew Moon "covered" the song. That tells me it was going to be a Gin Blossoms song from the beginning.

It's a good thing I have never listened to the Matthew Moon version--it's a new song to me! Hence, I don't care if he won the race to record it first. That doesn't ruin it for me.

As for my "ridiculous love for the band": Yes, there are people that still like this band. In case you didn't notice, you were severely outnumbered at GBfan.net. Most of us support the band, enjoy the work, but aren't afraid to dish out criticism when it is justified.

You, who are there only to criticize, couldn't handle that (think how much of a mess that place would be if everyone was like you) so you took your ball and went home. Not what I would do, but whatever.

Anyhoo, I won't give you grief here anymore. That's not my intention. You have a nice site here (just like Lost Horizons) that welcomes interaction. So, I interacted. Now that I know this is a "counterpoint free zone" in regards to the Gins, I will once again return to the crack GBfan.net forum.



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William says on
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 09:10:04 PM

"Severely outnumbered." Kev. Really? But yes, at gbfan.net the morons certainly outnumber the enlightened and informed.
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Mark says on
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 11:36:00 PM

Having someone "cover" a song before the "original artist" has either recorded nor played live just plain doesn't add up. As is true is with a lot to do with the band in 2010. But after putting it on their album years after Matthew, go figure that Jesse would be saying that Matthew Moon "covered" it.

It is quite interesting that you have not heard the Matthew Moon version of the song. Not only would I expect you'd want to hear a song that Jesse was involved in by now (given it's 2 odd years old); but for someone who has spent a lot of time vehemently arguing against anyone who has a negative view point and someone who has been presenting the "facts", you really don't seem to have heard much, if any, of the material. Hate my disgust for the material, but no one can fault me for my opinion and comments therein not coming squarely from my reaction after hearing the material.

Regarding gbfan.net, let's be clear. Firstly, I'm not "there" at all. And secondly, when I was there, I wasn't there to "only criticize". I had been there virtually from it's inception. On there due to interest, to provide information and to express my opinion on topics that related to the Gin Blossoms. I welcome you to try find how I was "only criticizing" before the No Chocolate Cake and my many disgusts with it surfaced. And even since those, I was not shy to praise the very few things to do with this album that I was actually half happy about. Your problem with my "only criticizing" is how much of it pertained to work involving Jesse. To the point that your back and forth completely overshadowed any criticism I (and others) had of the band as a unit.

I did not leave because of being severely outnumbered, nor not being able to take that everyone didn't agree with me. Everyone has their own opinion, and not all of them were aligned by mine. But that's fine. I've rarely 100% agreed with every Gin Blossoms fan in the world on every aspect of the band and it's music. And that's fine, and always has been. I had no problem having discussions publically and privately with people who did not share my opinions on the new album. My leaving was solely due to your over-the-top Valenzuela crusade, which was entirely reactionary because some people just plain don't like his current work. No one else is responsible for my decision to leave the board, let alone being "outnumbered".

Further to "being severely outnumbered" - sure I might have been, out of the relatively small proportion of people that actual post on that board. Rest assured I am not alone in my disillusionment about the band, which includes quieter members on that board that aren't as prepared as I am to publicly discuss their thoughts on the subject. Just like aspects of the band itself, you're a bit hasty to look on the surface about things. Give it some time, you'll see what I mean. Come back again in a year and see just how severely outnumbered I am in my views. Hell, give it 6 months. Similarly, check back in the future to see how much of my criticisms about things in general with the band actually fall that far from the mark.

It's not that I don't welcome interaction here or Lost Horizons. But I think it was pretty clear from the back on forth on gbfnet.net until I left that we do not have a common view point, and it was clear that the argument wasn't going to go anywhere. Part of the reason behind leaving the board is that, despite being opposed to much of your rebuttals and opinions, I recognize that you're entitled to them. Hence, leaving you to them on gbfan.net. Frankly, an argument that gets to the point where it doesn't add anything new and is just about who can speak the loudest / have the last word is pretty childish. It was at that point that I was happy to conceed the last word to you and move on. That is why I left, not because I was "outnumbered" or couldn't handle that not everyone shared my views.

That being said, given that among other things, I've blogged on the Gin Blossoms many times over the past 6 years, it's interesting to me that you and others who have never interacted here previously all of a sudden want to interact via my personal blog on this topic. After it has been clearly established that the argument is not going to arrive anywhere, nor was it reaping anything productive in it's final stages on the board before I left. I accepted the fact that there was no hope of changing your mind or influencing your thoughts on the board, and hence bowed out. I'm well aware of your stance, as you must be of mine. So I'm just not sure what you were hoping to achieve by bringing the argument to my personal blog. Let's be honest, pursuing the topic here with no shortage of prior knowledge (and personal history) on my stance is a little more than just interacting.

But with that said, thanks for the compliments on this site and Lost Horizons. Glad you like them.
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kevin Tucker says on
Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 07:10:13 PM

You know, I never thought the Gins could top Sgt. Peppers. But after hearing NCC, I think they did! By God, they really really did.
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Lauren says on
Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 03:06:38 PM

The Olympics that song was played..was during the promos for 2006...Turin. Vancouver was this year.
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Mark says on
Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 08:12:16 PM

Really? Honestly? Are we're still getting hung up the finer details on which Olympics this piece of shit was used for?

Lauren, it was not the "winter" Olympic Games, nor was it "2006", nor "Turin".

It was the the 2008 Bejing Summer Olympics.



Look how inspiring this song is to all those people running and jumping...and stuff. If there was any confusion this song isn't a Gin Blossoms song, this promo illustrates it. Inspirational has never been the Gin Blossoms gig. Not lyrically. Not personally. Anyone that wants to argue this does not know the band. Go and listen to their back catalogue. Read any interview they've ever given.

Congratulations to Jesse Valenzuela who wants to be America's next Idol. Complete fucking sell outs.

While we're on videos, let's get to this one that clears up what demographic these shit corporate shill songs are targeted to. Prepubescent girls that love Hannah Montana.



I'll say it again - corporate fucking sell outs.

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